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Out of Mind, Out of Sight

In this episode!  Crush, Kill, Destroy!

  • Katherine and Mark think that despite the fact that most podcasters hate this episode, we love it, and think it has some interesting messages
  • We think this might be a true horror episode. Do our 6 listeners think so? Why or why not?
  • Mark thinks Whedon is prophetic, and points out Cordelia’s “All Lives Matter” stance and the teacher’s critique of it
  • Katherine points out the significance of the “the anger of the outcast” and says this was a large part of Whedon’s rationale for creating the Buffyverse
  • Mark (Fashion Police)noticed that Harmony and Cordelia were wearing matching colors, and he wonders if it is a cult. Anyone else notice?
  • Katherine and Mark have a dispute that only YOU can solve, listeners. Mark says that Marcie begins disappearing a few days ago; Katherine insists the disappearance happened months ago. Who’s right? The winner gets Indian food, so this is high stakes.
  • We do have a very serious question we can’t answer: Why doesn’t Angel want Buffy to know he saved Giles, Willow, and Xander? We have a weak answer but are mainly stumped on this.
  • Shout outs to Just Laurie,  Nina Ryerson, and of course, all Lost in Space fans!
  • How long is the list of missing, dead, and disappeared?
  • Katherine asks, whose responsibility is it that people don’t fall through the cracks?

Resources:

Merchant of Venice, Shakespeare

“Happiness Is a Warm Gun,” The Beatles

Katherine mentioned that when Marcie looks at her book at the end of the episode, she sees it is about assassination. Here is some further incredibly fun information. The information was taken from the Buffy Wiki and from Wikipedia:

“Underneath the manual headline of “Assassination and Infiltration” are the lyrics to the Beatles song ” Happiness Is a Warm Gun“, but with a few small changes; any repetition in the lyrics is removed, the line ‘happiness is a warm gun’ is changed to ‘joy is a hot revolver,’ and the last line of text that is visible is not part of the song. What it says is ‘because joy is a hot revolver, and he is afraid of the monkeys who are in'”(Buffy Wiki)

“The body copy of the book Marcie opens at the end of the episode is the lyrics to the Beatles’ song “Happiness Is a Warm Gun.” However, the titular lyric is altered to “Joy is a hot revolver” and the text ends as follows: ‘Joy is a hot revolver, and he is afraid of the monkeys who are in possession of digital skeletons of Swiss cheese.”‘ (Wikipedia)

 

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  1. Mark W. Schumann said...

    on 2 May 2016 @ 2:20 pm

    I commented about the show echoing a favorite Sleater-Kinney lyric. Actually no, the song “Leave You Behind” (“Did you disappear, or were you just misplaced?”) was released in 2000. So maybe Carrie was inspired by Josh.

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  2. David Smithee said...

    on 3 May 2016 @ 10:53 pm

    I know it was a bit of a throw away line in the podcast, but I’ve been toying with the idea that Buffy isn’t the protagonist. On my most recent viewing of the series I walked away definitely feeling that Willow was the center of the series in a lot of ways. I feel she grows more as a character and it seems that a lot more of the early series foreshadowing that pays off in the last couple of seasons centers on Willow.

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  3. katherine said...

    on 3 May 2016 @ 11:07 pm

    David, I love that idea that Buffy isn’t the protag. I disagree with you, based in large part on comments that Joss Whedon has made throughout the years. He, at least, believes that Buffy is at the center. ON the other hand, death of the author, yada yada. We will definitely explore this more. I certainly lean towards your position in terms of Willow.

    And, of course Carrie was inspired by Joss. All the more reason for her to appear on the show! 😉

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  4. Sam said...

    on 7 May 2016 @ 2:40 pm

    I believe that she began disappearing months ago. If it was just a few days, I don’t think her mental stability would be weakened, but her mental breakdown seems to be far more profound.

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  5. katherine said...

    on 10 May 2016 @ 4:11 am

    Sam–I naturally think your comment is brilliant. You should continue to listen to the show and commenting frequently. 😉

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